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  Hi all

  by SailAway in

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  i have decided to join this forum after quite a long time lurking here (a number of years actually).. i have been out of the truth for a while and recently started to attend some meetings.

  but i now think a bit more freely and wonder whether i am doing the right thing.

  a cousin of mine regularly posts on here, didgeridoo in fact i have seen him today, speaking to him has made me decide to finally post on here, although i have my reservations whether i am doing the right thing.

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  I'm not seeing any avatar at all SailAway.
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  Hi all

  by SailAway in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have decided to join this forum after quite a long time lurking here (a number of years actually).. i have been out of the truth for a while and recently started to attend some meetings.

  but i now think a bit more freely and wonder whether i am doing the right thing.

  a cousin of mine regularly posts on here, didgeridoo in fact i have seen him today, speaking to him has made me decide to finally post on here, although i have my reservations whether i am doing the right thing.

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  Eyes Open

  Hello SailAway,
  
  Welcome to the forum.
  
  My only advice for you: don't take anything anyone says for granted. If something doesn't sit right with you, research it using WT material and scholarly material, and even sites like this if you so wish. Personally I have found using scholarly commentaries on books in the bible, particularly Daniel and Revelation which the Watchtower Society like to use to "prove" themselves and to inject fear and a sense of urgency into people, to be extremely educational.
  
  All the best.
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  " My was baptism not valid"?then fade?

  by wobble in

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  this is prompted by a recent thread about the change in baptism vows in 1985,my question is if someone wishes to fade, would a good method be to say "i feel my baptism was not valid and so i'm thinking of getting re-baptised, and then fade, would this not take away all "jurisdiction" by the congo.

  as you do not recognise youself as a "jehovah's witness" ?

  would it not then be impossible to d'f' or d'a' you?

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  They'd shun you as per usual I guess.
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  JW's stole a song from Queen / Freddie Mercury

  by Gopher in

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  i used to be the piano player at the kingdom hall (before they made the halls play tapes/cd's).

  i had no idea that whenever i played song 72, i was doing a song by queen.

  queen's song "lazing on a sunday afternoon" was on their 4th album "night at the opera", the same album that had "bohemian rhapsody".

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  Gopher! You've made my day!
  
  :D
  
  There's another link to Queen in the Kindgom Melodies. I can't remember all the words, but I think thunder and lightning are mentioned, and I used to sing "very very frightening!" afterwards.
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  " My was baptism not valid"?then fade?

  by wobble in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is prompted by a recent thread about the change in baptism vows in 1985,my question is if someone wishes to fade, would a good method be to say "i feel my baptism was not valid and so i'm thinking of getting re-baptised, and then fade, would this not take away all "jurisdiction" by the congo.

  as you do not recognise youself as a "jehovah's witness" ?

  would it not then be impossible to d'f' or d'a' you?

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  This crossed my mind yesterday as well. I don't suppose it would stop the machine doing what it wants with you anyway, but it could certainly make relatives still in, or the odd elder, think.
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  The Revelation book?

  by Layla33 in

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  i just came back from a weekend visit with my parents and i noticed this book all over - it gave me a bad feeling for some reason.

  now, i only came after the book study was over since they have it at their house, so that's another reason why it was probably left out.

  however, i consider this apocalyptic cult a concern and one of the reason i scan on here from time to time is to keep to date on what is going on.

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  I think the trumpet blasts are district conventions. Truly monumental events, huh?
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  Jehovah's Witnesses & Baptism

  by sacolton in

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  i'm trying to remember what is said during baptism.

  do they baptise "in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit"?

  i can't remember.. .

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  Changing Baptism Arrangement

  On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?

  Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization?
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  Birthdays

  by TIMBOB in

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  the wife had an interesting point last night.. on the night jesus was born, didn't the men bring him gifts?.

  wouldnt that be considered a birthday celebration?.

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  But he was special. We're just worthless, low-life scum who are only here to prop up the WTS.
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  Tossed out of the District Convention! What did I do wrong? I exist!!

  by Terry in

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  this is a stupid story if it is a story at all..... quentin and i decided we'd go to the district convention since it is right here in our home town.. why?.

  oh, curiousity.

  a desire to find my old prison buddies.

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  It's sad how frightened they are of people like us. Thanks for sharing Terry.
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  Did anyone get told that they 'think about things too much'?

  by jambon1 in

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  in the very early days of my explaining to certain witnesses my doubts, i kind of ran through all of them.

  they probobly merged into one big hodge-podge of apostate doubting nonsense.

  - the nephilim penis size, the animals in the ark, the she bears killing the kids, davids baby being killed by god for his adultery, jesus sacrifice not really being a sacrifice, the torture of jw's in the camps, appointment of elders, the changing doctrines.........but more than a few elders/rank & file witnesses told me that i "think about stuff too much".

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  One of my friends who left the group before I did got told they thought too much.
  
  When you make thinking a crime, you can condemn anything. :(